[7/13/2013 11:37:09 PM] Amikee DB GW2: wow just read how we are all supposed to stay at home tonight, we went out to eat and shopping so I guess we got home safely
[7/13/2013 11:39:12 PM] Sio: What do you mean?
[7/13/2013 11:39:22 PM] Amanda: O.o
[7/13/2013 11:39:36 PM] Sio: why would people not go out tonight?
[7/13/2013 11:39:40 PM] Amikee DB GW2: cause of the Zimmerman trial, him being found not guilty people were supposed to be rioting
[7/13/2013 11:40:08 PM] Sio: I don't know anything about any of that.
[7/13/2013 11:40:40 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I was reading it on FaceBook. I've got a couple of peeps that think the world is going to heck cause of the Texas law and the Zimmerman trial
[7/13/2013 11:40:44 PM | Edited 11:41:01 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I got news for them
[7/13/2013 11:40:54 PM] Amikee DB GW2: there is a lot more going on than just that lol
[7/13/2013 11:41:16 PM] Sio: If you believe in hell
[7/13/2013 11:41:56 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I believe in evil and that society has "swings" and we are swinging towards a more "evil" or lack of morals side
[7/13/2013 11:42:08 PM] Amanda: texas law?
[7/13/2013 11:42:28 PM] Sio: meh
[7/13/2013 11:42:33 PM | Edited 11:42:44 PM] Amikee DB GW2: yes limiting abortion to 20 weeks and makeing the clinics more professional
[7/13/2013 11:43:13 PM] Amanda: O.o and that makes the world go to hell?
[7/13/2013 11:43:49 PM] Amikee DB GW2: well their little liberal bubbles were burst
[7/13/2013 11:44:03 PM] Sio: meh
[7/13/2013 11:44:18 PM] Amanda: seems like 20 weeks is enough to know you're pregnant and know you don't want to be
[7/13/2013 11:44:18 PM] Sio: people didn't riot when casey anthony killed her daughter
[7/13/2013 11:44:36 PM] Sio: and got off scott fraking free
[7/13/2013 11:44:46 PM] Amikee DB GW2: you'd think but there is a lot of backward thinking out there
[7/13/2013 11:44:46 PM] Amanda: I actually missed the end of that trial
[7/13/2013 11:45:05 PM] Amanda: I think it would take a month minimum to know
[7/13/2013 11:45:19 PM] Amanda: maybe 2
[7/13/2013 11:45:48 PM] Sio: Well better to have an abortion than to bring more children into this world that no one wants or can't afford to feed.
[7/13/2013 11:46:01 PM] Amanda: yeah the alternative isn't so great
[7/13/2013 11:46:06 PM] Sio: Especially since it's such a pain in the ass to even try to adopt one
[7/13/2013 11:46:20 PM | Edited 11:46:38 PM] Amanda: homeless kids and desperate parents
[7/13/2013 11:47:04 PM] Amanda: I think we either have to have legal abortions or public health care
[7/13/2013 11:47:08 PM] Sio: starving children
[7/13/2013 11:47:11 PM] Amanda: cuz if you have them, they need medical
[7/13/2013 11:47:39 PM] Amikee DB GW2: hummm so baking soda is good to use to brush your teeth
[7/13/2013 11:47:40 PM] Sio: or both
[7/13/2013 11:47:49 PM] Amanda: Ah sio, this is america
[7/13/2013 11:47:53 PM] Amanda: we can't have both
[7/13/2013 11:47:55 PM] Sio: I would never have an abortion but I know if I ever get pregnant it's a miracle
[7/13/2013 11:48:00 PM] Sio: but I have friends who have had them
[7/13/2013 11:48:09 PM] Sio: one of them would have like 8 kids if she didn't
[7/13/2013 11:48:21 PM] Sio: fraking fertile myrtle
[7/13/2013 11:48:21 PM] Amanda: I have a cousin who should have had them
[7/13/2013 11:48:27 PM] Amanda: she has so many kids I've lost track
[7/13/2013 11:48:28 PM] Sio: I get bitter
[7/13/2013 11:48:32 PM | Edited 11:48:52 PM] Amanda: and she's raising none of them
[7/13/2013 11:48:40 PM] Amanda: half of them are little messed up drug babies
[7/13/2013 11:48:54 PM] Sio: I feel like the state should step in and make her have her tubes tied
[7/13/2013 11:49:01 PM] Sio: I agree with that.
[7/13/2013 11:49:04 PM] Amanda: no such luck
[7/13/2013 11:49:34 PM] Amanda: well least a few of them have dads who took them and their not in foster care
[7/13/2013 11:49:38 PM] Sio: there are places that pay for addicts to get sterilized
[7/13/2013 11:49:43 PM] Sio: like pay for it and pay the addict
[7/13/2013 11:50:13 PM] Amanda: Ah I think sterilizing people by law won't happen
[7/13/2013 11:50:28 PM] Sio: I know it won't
[7/13/2013 11:50:32 PM] Amanda: It's still too like, eugenics mentality for us
[7/13/2013 11:50:36 PM] Sio: it's a horrible invasion of the government into peoples lives
[7/13/2013 11:50:55 PM] Sio: but if they would pay someone to get sterilized and provide the procedure they could save a lot of money
[7/13/2013 11:51:10 PM] Amanda: would have to be choosy with the candidates
[7/13/2013 11:51:19 PM] Amikee DB GW2: ;)I'm off to brush my teeth and set sail to Port Slumber . . . carry on
[7/13/2013 11:51:34 PM] Amanda: I think it's too hard to say who should never be a parent
[7/13/2013 11:51:55 PM] Sio: I think if an addict is willing to get money to be sterilized then they should do it
[7/13/2013 11:52:02 PM] Sio: they obviously don't need to be having kids
[7/13/2013 11:52:23 PM] Amanda: I guess then it would depend on the addiction and if they would have messed up kids cuz of it
[7/13/2013 11:52:37 PM] Sio: if they are a consenting party then it's their business
[7/13/2013 11:52:46 PM] Sio: but obviously not weed or anything ridiculous like that
[7/13/2013 11:52:53 PM] Sio: like meth heads and crack and heroin addicts
[7/13/2013 11:53:27 PM] Amanda: Well if it was allowed for the harsher stuff, would open the way for it to be applied to anything else based on whoever happens to be in powers personal opinion on what's bad for kids
[7/13/2013 11:54:34 PM] Sio: I'm not saying people should be forced to do it
[7/13/2013 11:54:36 PM] Amanda: For us that could change every 4 years
[7/13/2013 11:54:42 PM] Sio: I'm just saying if they want to do it then it should happen
[7/13/2013 11:55:08 PM] Amanda: well would probably be an easier route then actually curing addicts
[7/13/2013 11:55:34 PM] Sio: well, in order to help and addict recover they have to know they have a problem and want to recover
[7/13/2013 11:55:37 PM] Sio: but there's no curing
[7/13/2013 11:55:41 PM] Sio: they'll always be an addict
[7/13/2013 11:56:30 PM | Edited 11:56:38 PM] Amanda: There's always isolating someone away from their substance of choice for long periods of time, but that's time and money that organizations just won't do for free
[7/13/2013 11:56:49 PM] Sio: yup
[7/13/2013 11:56:59 PM] Sio: and I bet there are a ton of addicts who want help and just can't afford to get it
[7/13/2013 11:57:03 PM] Sio: we're not all celebrities
[7/13/2013 11:57:27 PM | Edited 11:57:50 PM] Amanda: :Dthe celebrity rehab paces look like a vacation
[7/13/2013 11:57:36 PM] Amanda: I could totally stay there for a few months
[7/13/2013 11:57:42 PM] Sio: me too!
[7/13/2013 11:57:44 PM] Sio: I'm down
[7/13/2013 11:57:53 PM] Sio: we should go together
[7/13/2013 11:57:58 PM] Amanda: forget weed, I could chill by a pool
[7/13/2013 11:58:10 PM] Sio: we're addicted to weed
[7/13/2013 11:58:14 PM] Sio: we need rehab
[7/13/2013 11:58:15 PM] Amanda: In San Diego
[7/13/2013 11:58:40 PM] Amanda: yes it's horribly addictive and merrits going to a fancy rehab place
[7/13/2013 11:58:42 PM] Amanda: with a pool
[7/13/2013 11:59:04 PM] Sio: hmmmmmm
[7/13/2013 11:59:09 PM] Sio: I can sneak in edibles
[7/13/2013 11:59:27 PM] Amanda: :Dnow you're missing the point
[7/13/2013 11:59:32 PM] Amanda: don't sneak stuff in
[7/13/2013 11:59:40 PM] Amanda: cuz when you get out, your tolerance will be really low
[7/13/2013 11:59:44 PM] Amanda: you can get really really high
[12:00:22 AM] Sio: good point
[12:02:32 AM] Amanda: somehow most of our conversations come down to getting stoned
[12:02:43 AM] Amanda: this one started out about abortion
[12:02:50 AM] Sio: we have a problem
[12:02:58 AM] Sio: (chuckle)
[7/13/2013 11:39:12 PM] Sio: What do you mean?
[7/13/2013 11:39:22 PM] Amanda: O.o
[7/13/2013 11:39:36 PM] Sio: why would people not go out tonight?
[7/13/2013 11:39:40 PM] Amikee DB GW2: cause of the Zimmerman trial, him being found not guilty people were supposed to be rioting
[7/13/2013 11:40:08 PM] Sio: I don't know anything about any of that.
[7/13/2013 11:40:40 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I was reading it on FaceBook. I've got a couple of peeps that think the world is going to heck cause of the Texas law and the Zimmerman trial
[7/13/2013 11:40:44 PM | Edited 11:41:01 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I got news for them
[7/13/2013 11:40:54 PM] Amikee DB GW2: there is a lot more going on than just that lol
[7/13/2013 11:41:16 PM] Sio: If you believe in hell
[7/13/2013 11:41:56 PM] Amikee DB GW2: I believe in evil and that society has "swings" and we are swinging towards a more "evil" or lack of morals side
[7/13/2013 11:42:08 PM] Amanda: texas law?
[7/13/2013 11:42:28 PM] Sio: meh
[7/13/2013 11:42:33 PM | Edited 11:42:44 PM] Amikee DB GW2: yes limiting abortion to 20 weeks and makeing the clinics more professional
[7/13/2013 11:43:13 PM] Amanda: O.o and that makes the world go to hell?
[7/13/2013 11:43:49 PM] Amikee DB GW2: well their little liberal bubbles were burst
[7/13/2013 11:44:03 PM] Sio: meh
[7/13/2013 11:44:18 PM] Amanda: seems like 20 weeks is enough to know you're pregnant and know you don't want to be
[7/13/2013 11:44:18 PM] Sio: people didn't riot when casey anthony killed her daughter
[7/13/2013 11:44:36 PM] Sio: and got off scott fraking free
[7/13/2013 11:44:46 PM] Amikee DB GW2: you'd think but there is a lot of backward thinking out there
[7/13/2013 11:44:46 PM] Amanda: I actually missed the end of that trial
[7/13/2013 11:45:05 PM] Amanda: I think it would take a month minimum to know
[7/13/2013 11:45:19 PM] Amanda: maybe 2
[7/13/2013 11:45:48 PM] Sio: Well better to have an abortion than to bring more children into this world that no one wants or can't afford to feed.
[7/13/2013 11:46:01 PM] Amanda: yeah the alternative isn't so great
[7/13/2013 11:46:06 PM] Sio: Especially since it's such a pain in the ass to even try to adopt one
[7/13/2013 11:46:20 PM | Edited 11:46:38 PM] Amanda: homeless kids and desperate parents
[7/13/2013 11:47:04 PM] Amanda: I think we either have to have legal abortions or public health care
[7/13/2013 11:47:08 PM] Sio: starving children
[7/13/2013 11:47:11 PM] Amanda: cuz if you have them, they need medical
[7/13/2013 11:47:39 PM] Amikee DB GW2: hummm so baking soda is good to use to brush your teeth
[7/13/2013 11:47:40 PM] Sio: or both
[7/13/2013 11:47:49 PM] Amanda: Ah sio, this is america
[7/13/2013 11:47:53 PM] Amanda: we can't have both
[7/13/2013 11:47:55 PM] Sio: I would never have an abortion but I know if I ever get pregnant it's a miracle
[7/13/2013 11:48:00 PM] Sio: but I have friends who have had them
[7/13/2013 11:48:09 PM] Sio: one of them would have like 8 kids if she didn't
[7/13/2013 11:48:21 PM] Sio: fraking fertile myrtle
[7/13/2013 11:48:21 PM] Amanda: I have a cousin who should have had them
[7/13/2013 11:48:27 PM] Amanda: she has so many kids I've lost track
[7/13/2013 11:48:28 PM] Sio: I get bitter
[7/13/2013 11:48:32 PM | Edited 11:48:52 PM] Amanda: and she's raising none of them
[7/13/2013 11:48:40 PM] Amanda: half of them are little messed up drug babies
[7/13/2013 11:48:54 PM] Sio: I feel like the state should step in and make her have her tubes tied
[7/13/2013 11:49:01 PM] Sio: I agree with that.
[7/13/2013 11:49:04 PM] Amanda: no such luck
[7/13/2013 11:49:34 PM] Amanda: well least a few of them have dads who took them and their not in foster care
[7/13/2013 11:49:38 PM] Sio: there are places that pay for addicts to get sterilized
[7/13/2013 11:49:43 PM] Sio: like pay for it and pay the addict
[7/13/2013 11:50:13 PM] Amanda: Ah I think sterilizing people by law won't happen
[7/13/2013 11:50:28 PM] Sio: I know it won't
[7/13/2013 11:50:32 PM] Amanda: It's still too like, eugenics mentality for us
[7/13/2013 11:50:36 PM] Sio: it's a horrible invasion of the government into peoples lives
[7/13/2013 11:50:55 PM] Sio: but if they would pay someone to get sterilized and provide the procedure they could save a lot of money
[7/13/2013 11:51:10 PM] Amanda: would have to be choosy with the candidates
[7/13/2013 11:51:19 PM] Amikee DB GW2: ;)I'm off to brush my teeth and set sail to Port Slumber . . . carry on
[7/13/2013 11:51:34 PM] Amanda: I think it's too hard to say who should never be a parent
[7/13/2013 11:51:55 PM] Sio: I think if an addict is willing to get money to be sterilized then they should do it
[7/13/2013 11:52:02 PM] Sio: they obviously don't need to be having kids
[7/13/2013 11:52:23 PM] Amanda: I guess then it would depend on the addiction and if they would have messed up kids cuz of it
[7/13/2013 11:52:37 PM] Sio: if they are a consenting party then it's their business
[7/13/2013 11:52:46 PM] Sio: but obviously not weed or anything ridiculous like that
[7/13/2013 11:52:53 PM] Sio: like meth heads and crack and heroin addicts
[7/13/2013 11:53:27 PM] Amanda: Well if it was allowed for the harsher stuff, would open the way for it to be applied to anything else based on whoever happens to be in powers personal opinion on what's bad for kids
[7/13/2013 11:54:34 PM] Sio: I'm not saying people should be forced to do it
[7/13/2013 11:54:36 PM] Amanda: For us that could change every 4 years
[7/13/2013 11:54:42 PM] Sio: I'm just saying if they want to do it then it should happen
[7/13/2013 11:55:08 PM] Amanda: well would probably be an easier route then actually curing addicts
[7/13/2013 11:55:34 PM] Sio: well, in order to help and addict recover they have to know they have a problem and want to recover
[7/13/2013 11:55:37 PM] Sio: but there's no curing
[7/13/2013 11:55:41 PM] Sio: they'll always be an addict
[7/13/2013 11:56:30 PM | Edited 11:56:38 PM] Amanda: There's always isolating someone away from their substance of choice for long periods of time, but that's time and money that organizations just won't do for free
[7/13/2013 11:56:49 PM] Sio: yup
[7/13/2013 11:56:59 PM] Sio: and I bet there are a ton of addicts who want help and just can't afford to get it
[7/13/2013 11:57:03 PM] Sio: we're not all celebrities
[7/13/2013 11:57:27 PM | Edited 11:57:50 PM] Amanda: :Dthe celebrity rehab paces look like a vacation
[7/13/2013 11:57:36 PM] Amanda: I could totally stay there for a few months
[7/13/2013 11:57:42 PM] Sio: me too!
[7/13/2013 11:57:44 PM] Sio: I'm down
[7/13/2013 11:57:53 PM] Sio: we should go together
[7/13/2013 11:57:58 PM] Amanda: forget weed, I could chill by a pool
[7/13/2013 11:58:10 PM] Sio: we're addicted to weed
[7/13/2013 11:58:14 PM] Sio: we need rehab
[7/13/2013 11:58:15 PM] Amanda: In San Diego
[7/13/2013 11:58:40 PM] Amanda: yes it's horribly addictive and merrits going to a fancy rehab place
[7/13/2013 11:58:42 PM] Amanda: with a pool
[7/13/2013 11:59:04 PM] Sio: hmmmmmm
[7/13/2013 11:59:09 PM] Sio: I can sneak in edibles
[7/13/2013 11:59:27 PM] Amanda: :Dnow you're missing the point
[7/13/2013 11:59:32 PM] Amanda: don't sneak stuff in
[7/13/2013 11:59:40 PM] Amanda: cuz when you get out, your tolerance will be really low
[7/13/2013 11:59:44 PM] Amanda: you can get really really high
[12:00:22 AM] Sio: good point
[12:02:32 AM] Amanda: somehow most of our conversations come down to getting stoned
[12:02:43 AM] Amanda: this one started out about abortion
[12:02:50 AM] Sio: we have a problem
[12:02:58 AM] Sio: (chuckle)